June 2017 general Election
Do you not think that we need someone who is good at calculating just what is needed for the negotiations - whenever they start - for Brexit? All I am concerned about is the possibility that, as has been suggested by a columnist in one newspaper, that should she get an unassailable majority she might then simply decide to retract on the promise to honour the referendum result. Somehow I think that we would see widespread ructions if she were to try that. As the French were once wont to say 'Aux barricades!' as they still do when they feel like it. Maybe that habit would spread to this country.
As to Corbyn he shows himself more and more as being completely out of touch with the world. What naivety to try to treat aggressors by writing them a letter asking to discuss matters.
By the way John R' my other half gave me another Malt this year "Penderyn" a product from Taffy Land, Look You, isn't it? at 46% ABV, Must admit, very pleasant to gargle with, recommend you give it a try, it could lower the blood pressure.
It seems that her 'turn' went down well and they said she was the best comic they'd had for years!
(That last bit is mine but I'll wager that that was what they all thought!)
As long as no one starts sharpening claymores there shouldn't be anything more nasty than the usual insults. I suppose a well aimed haggis might surface at some time but I don't think one would cause a significant amount of damage. I am, as I said I would, for the nonce, refraining from making any references about Nicola Sturgeon except the ones one would consider appropriate.
I did use the word 'nonce' in a Wetherspoons pub recently and got a very strange look from the barman until I explained its antiquity and original meaning which is as I am sure you know in this context means 'for the moment'. Well, that how Shakespeare used it!.
It will be interesting to see the figures once the votes have been counted but as I said earlier I am puzzled by the way Theresa May is running her campaign. Very odd. I fear that she is making life much more difficult for herself than she needed to have done. What say you?
I thought that she might have shot herself in the foot over the changes in the payment for Social care. With more and more people living longer, it will change family inheritances somewhat. £ 100,000 is a tidy sum but not when it includes the family house. The winter fuel allowance is not a benefit and the reasoning there is so that no one can point the finger at who receives it. When you think that the House of Lords is full of numpties who get £300 a day to turn up and sleep in that hallowed place, it makes a mockery of means testing the winter fuel allowance. Also the removal of the State Pension 2.5% lock is cruel. All pensioners don't have additional private pensions. All in all, it may well turn sour for the PM. Labour however have never been at such a low ebb and until they get rid of Corbyn they will never succeed. He is nigh on unelectable and the gang around him do him no favours. For the first time in my life, i am undecided who to vote for. As a life long Labour supporter, i am appalled at them allowing the party to get into such a state. All the parties are using the NHS as a focal point and accusing each other of being guilty for it's current demise and promising billions of pounds to try and right it. The NHS and Education seem to be the main issues with both main parties promising Billions of pounds to right the wrongs. Nobody seems to be able to recruit enough young nurses, doctors or school teachers to cope. Apparently to add insult to injury, quite a number of police were recruited without the necessary background checks having been done and they are now playing catch up. It's a wee bit like a Monty Python sketch. Rant over.
I had one Labour candidate at the local council elections and one loon in a car babbling through a megaphone. At the polling station Zilch.
No seriously it was for the local elections for Councillors and he wouldn't have needed my vote anyway. It's staunch Labour in these parts and no doubt always will be. I did get him to promise to look into the possibility of having a 65 to 70 foot high tree growing out of the pavement opposite next door cut down but it's still there. Otherwise I've never seen a politician of any kind since we've been here which is now ten years this July.
(Lovely to see Cat Napping climbing steadily up to where it belongs - on the front page. Just wish Admin had done it when I asked them! X
Having suffered through what was basically a cat-fight between Sturgeon and Davidson.
I have to admit the SNP leader is a sharp cookie, but she failed to answer , in a satisfactory manner, any of the failings over the last ten years of the SNPs ability to govern, by God she can talk, but she failed miserably to answer satisfactorily why ,Education, NHS, and employment had declined whilst they had been in control, she did try her best to bluster her way through, but how can you justify failure?
The audience had more than its fair share of SNP supporters, but the biggest responses from the whole audience came when members of the public asked questions mainly in these areas. Why after ten years in power, had there been no improvement, and why were these in a worse situation than when the SNP came into power?
The main reason for these failings soon became apparent from the audiences responses, "To much time and effort being put into trying to get the public to vote for independence, and not enough in running Scotland"
I predict that the SNP will win in Scotland, but only by a small majority, taking the audience as a proportion of the population, most, it would appear, are tired of the SNPs constant mantra, and Sturgeons fixation on an "INDEPENDENT"?????? Scotland ruled by Brussels
Sorry for not replying to your post of the 19th earlier re the changes in social care payments. I have said in a previous thread - Place your bets I think it was - that I can't understand some of Theresa's moves and she is likely to get a far lower majority than she could have had. Perhaps she is being more honest than usual in putting these things up front and trusting the public to recognise that fact. There will always be disagreements whatever is suggested and whoever suggests them and some polls suggest that the gap is narrowing between Tory and Labour. They all differ about the degree of the speed of change and stranger things have happened in very recent history. No more need be said I think. It is also possible as Don says that the SNP might in a sense get its arse kicked a little. They will win of course but I do not think by as many seats as before. It might serve as a wake up call for Nicola.
What an almighty mess. The PM and the SNP leader and first minister got it somewhat wrong, with both of them having a false idea of how strong their position was. The PM coming out with the same line about " the country needing a strong leader to get us a good deal from brexit" and the Scottish first minister being obsessed with the 2nd referendum. It has bitten them both in the rear end. As well as the removal of the likes of Nick Clegg, Alex Salmond and Angus Robertson. Corbyn, universally berated, steals the show. Heaven help us all.
Theresa May threw away a large advantage firstly with a poor manifesto, failing to debate with other leaders and to some extent misjudging the young and the elderly. Mind you the media did'nt help by haranging Jeremy Corbin namely the Mail & Mirror + other's. Unfortunatly this puts us in a weak position with Brexit we have played right into Europe's hands by voting this way.
A few months ago, Corbyn was lucky to hang on to his leadership and his own front benchers were lining up to topple him. His first Pmqs session had him reading out a letter from a fictional voter. It was a comic show. Theresa May obviously ended up as the party leader after the other party heavyweights hacked each other to death. Teresa May undoubtedly is a competent politician but not the best in connecting with the public . I think that she totally misjudged the mood of the country and by calling for a general election,may well have endangered the Brexit negotiatons and her own position. I will admit that i didn't foresee Corbyn's meteoric rise in popularity. This is of course my personal take on events
I live in South Suffolk, between Colchester, and Ipswich. Ben Gummer, who helped draw up Conservative's manifesto, lost his seat to Labour!
I saw someone state today that Theresa May was advised to call a snap election so maybe she was just unwise to take notice of her advisers. At least no one can now accuse me of jumping onto any bandwagon by saying that I had my doubts about her campaign since I voiced my concerns early on and on more than one thread.
I have always felt that she made her greatest mistake in making it a personal matter between herself and Corbyn. As the run up has continued he has welded the Labour Party into a unified one and presented himself as a benevolent Uncle figure saying to all his nephews and nieces 'of course you can have all the sweeties you want'. The younger voters do not know of the Labour Party's past records and obviously not looked back to find out. He is still in my mind a totally unfit man to run this country because of his past record. There is also the little matter of the 172 MPs who wrote to him asking for him to step down and saying that they could not support him. Strange what a whiff of the chance of power does to people.
Theresa May has lost support partly through not putting herself on view in public debates and it now appears that she tends to focus quite narrowly on certain issues where she ought to be casting her net on a wider and inclusive scale. In truth I believe that she is in essence quite shy and finds it hard to open up as Corbyn has done. Mac has a good point by showing that negative remarks in the Press can sometimes rebound as the British mentality tends to favour the underdog and Corbyn was certainly that at the outset of the hustings.
One good thing is that Clegg has gone and probably for good. He has never appealed to me as a worthwhile man and when you consider that he is yet another politician who has never held a normal job it shows in everything he does.
I will not comment of Scotland's new position apart from saying that thankfully the SNP's losses were very much the Tories gain. I saw just one glimpse of her on TV early this morning and she looked, shall we say, a tad mortified although still claiming that she had achieved a good result!
for the moment, best regards to all,
It just shows the difference in the picture of a few weeks back and now. Corbyn was the least likely of any of the leaders to have any success and voila, nearly hero status. I personally said in post that he would never make a leader and that the Labour Party would never succeed with him at the helm. The PM took her foot off the gas and showed neither the determination or drive to seal the deal. Nicola Sturgeon damaged her chances by putting the referendum top of her agenda and the Scottish Public had no appetite for it so soon after the first one. Loads of Labour voters voted Tory tactically and it succeeded. The SNP are still very much in the driving seat up here but their MP's are somewhat depleted in Westminster, The constant harping from critics and the press on the party's track record on Education and the NHS didn't help. If you hear something often enough it sticks. It was one of the strangest elections that i have seen. Thank God it's over for now. Roll on Brexit for round two.