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Soft Southern Barsteward 5 February 2012 16:50
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They say we are a nation of benifit scroungers,with a vast amount of people getting more than they ever put in,but the government do little to discourage it,they allow more and more to claim without proper checks.When you read in the papers that a certain individual wins 10 million pounds and still gets benifits plus a free car every 3 years you have to wonder WHY? We have a huge number of foriegn people who come into the country,and get state help because its their right,is it?they ,well some of them, can barely speak English,have very few skills,rant and rave about us not liking their beliefs,and demand that we give them housing etc;if we dont we are accused of breaching E.U regs,time we stood up and said no more,lets go for England being firm and kicking the E.U into touch.
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Mo 5 February 2012 17:51
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Quoting: Phillip Strawn They say we are a nation of benifit scroungers,with a vast amount of people getting more than they ever put in,but the government do little to discourage it,they allow more and more to claim without proper checks.When you read in the papers that a certain individual wins 10 million pounds and still gets benifits plus a free car every 3 years you have to wonder WHY? We have a huge number of foriegn people who come into the country,and get state help because its their right,is it?they ,well some of them, can barely speak English,have very few skills,rant and rave about us not liking their beliefs,and demand that we give them housing etc;if we dont we are accused of breaching E.U regs,time we stood up and said no more,lets go for England being firm and kicking the E.U into touch. Hi Phillip relating to Politeness, except in family circles i have stopped being so because indoing so you are treat with suspicion because its meaning doesnt count in much of todays Society,so i try to be as rude as possibly to be accepted as being "The Norm",
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Basher 5 February 2012 18:29
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I am on benefits but only because the company I had a retirement pension with went out of buisness leavig me with a pension of £57.00 per year. I have had 5 HEART ATTACKS.LUNG CANCER. DIABETIC. GOUT ( VERY PAINFUL IN BOTH FEET) making it hard for me to walk 20 yards. AND last but not least GALL BLADDER TROUBLE on which the will not operate as it will possibly kill me. I am no 70 and spent 34 years with the millitary only six regs as my first wife was taken seriously ill and passen on 2 years after leaving me a 10 tear old daughter to looh after. I then joined the ARMY CADETS and the T.A. REACHING THE RANK OF COUNTY R.S.MIhave never had a bus pass or a car to which I can get anytime I want REGARDS BRIAN OGRADY
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John Raymond 5 February 2012 19:03
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Hi, Brian OGrady, there are benefits cheats and scroungers all over the country, but youre not one of them, mate. Youve had a hell of a time of it, Brian, and I can only wish you an improvement in your fortunes. Good luck mate. John.
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John (Scouse) Hirons 5 February 2012 23:19
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Alright Brian, It would seem that Im also one of the scrougers. I have had 3 heart attacks & I have angina, COPD & generalised arthritis. Im on high rate DLA carers & mobility, shame on me they should send me home...oops...I am home, in that case they should kick me out on the streets & sell my wife & daughter to a brothel to help pay for all the help I have scrounged of the state. Yeh lets stop DLA...£10 mil plus benifits plus a free car every 3 years...All the disabled are nothing but scrounging scum. Some of them have the cheek to want food every day & a warm house, hangings too good for them. On the other hand all old age pensions should be stopped, why should pensioners get a £2.7 million tax-free lump sum & a pension of £342,500 a year? no wonder the countries skint. If you dont believe me take the typical pensioner Fred Goodwin.
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Spud 5 February 2012 23:43
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Does anyone else who reads the court news get hot under the collar when the stated occupation of burglars, bank robbers, scrotes who beat up old ladies for their bingo money etc etc, is sickness or invalid beneficiary? oops, I meant misundertood members of society, NOT scrotes.
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Mo 4 March 2012 17:52
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[QUOTE]Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons[/B] [I]Alright Brian, It would seem that I'm also one of the scrougers. I have had 3 heart attacks & I have angina, COPD & generalised arthritis. I'm on high rate DLA carers & mobility, shame on me they should send me home...oops...I am home, in that case they should kick me out on the streets & sell my wife & daughter to a brothel to help pay for all the help I have scrounged of the state.   Yeh let's stop DLA...£10 mil plus benifits plus a free car every 3 years...All the disabled are nothing but scrounging scum. Some of them have the cheek to want food every day & a warm house, hangings too good for them.   On the other hand all old age pensions should be stopped, why should pensioners get a £2.7 million tax-free lump sum & a pension of £342,500 a year? no wonder the countries skint. If you don't believe me take the typical pensioner Fred Goodwin. [/I][/QUOTE]what you fail to mention is nearly every day in the news there is a demand for certain members of the Buisness, Banking sector ,plus M.Ps to be taken "To Book" if the "appear" to be Misappropriating Monies or their Bonuses are out of proportion , yet we also read in those same newspapers members of "Joe Public " Stealing monies out of the Welfare "Pot"what Tax Payers have contributed to to the tune of many Thousands of Pounds and getting away with a Suspended Sentence, at least those thieving ba***rd M.P.s did some Time and finish up as Pariahs in society .whilst the benefit scroungers , Up Sticks and move to another town where no one knows them.:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Mo 4 March 2012 18:00
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Quoting: maurice robinson[/B] Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons[/B] Alright Brian, It would seem that I'm also one of the scrougers. I have had 3 heart attacks & I have angina, COPD & generalised arthritis. I'm on high rate DLA carers & mobility, shame on me they should send me home...oops...I am home, in that case they should kick me out on the streets & sell my wife & daughter to a brothel to help pay for all the help I have scrounged of the state.   Yeh let's stop DLA...£10 mil plus benifits plus a free car every 3 years...All the disabled are nothing but scrounging scum. Some of them have the cheek to want food every day & a warm house, hangings too good for them.   On the other hand all old age pensions should be stopped, why should pensioners get a £2.7 million tax-free lump sum & a pension of £342,500 a year? no wonder the countries skint. If you don't believe me take the typical pensioner Fred Goodwin. what you fail to mention is nearly every day in the news there is a demand for certain members of the Buisness, Banking sector ,plus M.Ps to be taken "To Book" if the "appear" to be  Misappropriating Monies or their Bonuses are out of proportion , yet we also read in those same newspapers members of "Joe Public " Stealing monies out of the Welfare "Pot"what Tax Payers have contributed to  to the tune of many Thousands of Pounds and getting away with a Suspended Sentence, at least those thieving ba***rd M.P.s did some Time and finish up as Pariahs in society .whilst the benefit scroungers , Up Sticks  and move to another town where no one knows them. [/QUOTE]forgot to mention Scouse i am a typical pensioner and i can assure you i am not £342,500 per year i am on only £340 ,000 the other £500 goes to my Mistress , Bless her.
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Ros Comain. 5 March 2012 18:55
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Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons   Yeh let's stop DLA...£10 mil plus benifits plus a free car every 3 years...All the disabled are nothing but scrounging scum. Some of them have the cheek to want food every day & a warm house, hangings too good for them.   On the other hand all old age pensions should be stopped, why should pensioners get a £2.7 million tax-free lump sum & a pension of £342,500 a year? no wonder the countries skint. If you don't believe me take the typical pensioner Fred Goodwin. Well Scouse, you can say all that, but of course I could not possibly comment!! I agree with you regarding Fred, I think it is a case of Tony and his cronies looking after their own, now, I wonder who could have advised Tony and Ken Livingston, the bastion of the left, how to legally avoid the 40% tax rate by setting up their own companies, they would not do that, would they!
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John (Scouse) Hirons 5 March 2012 20:14
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Quoting: Michael Potter Well Scouse, you can say all that, but of course I could not possibly comment!! I agree with you regarding Fred, I think it is a case of Tony and his cronies looking after their own, now, I wonder who could have advised Tony and Ken Livingston, the bastion of the left, how to legally avoid the 40% tax rate by setting up their own companies, they would not do that,  would they! Alright Michael, I think youve got your time lines a twisted there. Blair left office in 2007. Besides which Goodwin wasnt paid through a private company he was paid over the counter & like a true Tory he had his grubby little trotters deep in the trough, by the way wasnt he another mate of Cameron? that explains a lot.
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Ros Comain. 6 March 2012 21:31
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Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons Alright Michael, I think you've got your time lines a twisted there. Blair left office in 2007. Besides which Goodwin wasn't paid through a private company he was paid over the counter & like a true Tory he had his grubby little trotters deep in the trough, by the way wasn't he another 'mate' of Cameron? that explains a lot. Must have got it wrong Scouse, it was not Tony, the classic Champagne Socialist, then that nominated him for a Knighhood
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John (Scouse) Hirons 7 March 2012 01:04
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Quoting: Michael Potter Must have got it wrong Scouse, it was not Tony, the classic Champagne Socialist, then that nominated him for a Knighhood Alright Michael, You nearly right there mate, he did indeed get his knighthood in Blairs 2004 honours list but as I think you know the leaders of the 3 main parties put forward names for honours & guess who put Goodwin forward...give up? why it was that well known socialist & closet Liberal the pinko around town called Iain Duncan Smith, you remember him, he was the leader of the neo-communist Tory Party.
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Ros Comain. 11 March 2012 21:39
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Quoting: John (scouse) Hirons Alright Michael, You nearly right there mate, he did indeed get his knighthood in Blairs' 2004 honours list but as I think you know the leaders of the 3 main parties put forward names for honours & guess who put Goodwin forward...give up? why it was that well known socialist & closet Liberal the pinko around town called Iain Duncan Smith, you remember him, he was the leader of the neo-communist Tory Party. Lets deal in facts Scouse, the Labour Party nominated Fred for his knighthood, and, little Ed did apologise for it, no good putting your left wing spin on it. Now I appreciate that Ian Duncan Smith has sensibly tried to sort out the benefit culture in this country, which of course would not go down well with you, or your supporters, but, he had to try and reverse some of the damage done by Tony and Gordon., and to a lesser extent by previous Governments. You and the left have to realise that the tax payer cannot go on subsidising the people that will not work, of course you will argue that there are no jobs, but even during the boom times they had no intention of working. I think John Kennedys famous speech, slightly altered, would apply:- Ask not what I can do for my country and myself. Ask only what my country and the tax payer can do for me
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John (Scouse) Hirons 12 March 2012 12:40
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Quoting: Michael Potter Lets deal in facts Scouse, the Labour Party nominated Fred for his knighthood, and, little Ed did apologise for it, no good putting your left wing spin on it. Now I appreciate that Ian Duncan Smith has sensibly tried to sort out the benefit culture in this country, which of course would not go down well with you, or your supporters, but, he had to try and reverse some of the damage done by Tony and Gordon., and to a lesser extent by previous Governments.   You and the left have to realise that the tax payer cannot go on subsidising the people that will not work, of course you will argue that there are no jobs, but even during the boom times they had no intention of working. I think John Kennedy's famous speech, slightly altered, would apply:- Ask not what I can do for my country and myself. Ask only what my country and the tax payer can do for me Alright Michael, As you say lets deal with facts & not right wing lies & smoke screens Duncan Smith put Goodwins name forward for the knighthood & it was included in Blairs honours list, you cant pretend that it was Blairs idea as much as you would like to. As usual you & the rest of the right wing attack the poorest in society & pretend its for the good of all. Sorry mate the people have already seen though the veil of lies the right wing have been spouting. They have cut the dole, rent rebates, disability allowance & are putting millions of hard working people on the dole at the same time they are robbing the pensions of doctors, nurses, teachers & civil servants. They do this so they can pay multi-million pound bonuses to top up the multi-million pound salaries of the bankers who caused this world wide depression. I suppose you will try to blame the poor sods who have been thrown onto the dole by deliberate right wing government action for all the woes of the world but it wont wash as I have said the people have seen through the pack of lies & claims that it "wernt me mista" this inept right wing crew put out. As for your paraphrasing Kennedy dont you realise that thats the bankers credo.
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Ceylon220 12 March 2012 16:19
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A local builder was accused of claiming benifits totalling £34,000, he claimed that he was unable to walk more than 10 paces before having to sit down,could hardly hold a knife and fork,and had to move his bed down stairs as he could`nt climb the stairs to the bed room--they offered to put him a chair lift in--but he was caught on camera, playing on an 18 hole golf course, re-roofing a clients house 3 stories up--his excuse was that he had good days and bad days and when the pics were taken it was on his good days(bloody idiot)---there was nothing said about him repaying the money back--he received 40 hours community work----why was there no checks done when he made the claims----not bad £34,000 for 40hours work and they say crime does`nt pay---who is kidding who--the only people making money these days are the criminals----no good being a saint into days world.
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John (Scouse) Hirons 12 March 2012 16:37
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Quoting: Dave Whitfield A local builder was accused of claiming benifits totalling £34,000, he claimed that he was unable to walk more than 10 paces before having to sit down,could hardly hold a knife and fork,and had to move his bed down stairs as he could`nt climb the stairs to the bed room--they offered to put him a chair lift in--but he was caught on camera, playing on an 18 hole golf course, re-roofing a clients house 3 stories up--his excuse was that he had good days and bad days and when the pics were taken it was on his good days(bloody idiot)---there was nothing said about him repaying the money back--he received 40 hours community work----why was there no checks done when he made the claims----not bad £34,000 for 40hours work and they say crime does`nt pay---who is kidding who--the only people making money these days are the criminals----no good being a saint into days world. Alright Dave, He will automatically have to pay it back, if fraud if committed against the state its an automatic pay back if its against a private company or person the judge has to order it.
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Syd Jones 12 March 2012 18:11
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The way I see it is that the State doesnt owe anyone a living. However, it does owe children an education that will give them a chance to make something of themselves. Which, generally speaking, they dont get at present. The sooner we accept that fact, the better. I dont believe for one moment that any of the main parties support idleness or sponging from the state. As for Sir Fred and his knighthood, its just an irrelevance, if one party hadnt proposed it, one of the others would have done. Certainly if anyone is unable to work, they need support, but they dont need to become one of the higher paid! Cheers, Syd.
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Ceylon220 7 April 2012 10:12
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Mothers arguing over child benifit being cut, when we had our family there was no child benifit, we had to manage on the money we earned, they think because they decide to have a brood of children that the tax payer should pay for the privilage,why should we pay for other peoples children, no wonder we have so many young girls under the age of 20 getting pregnant when they see that the State will provide for them. My son and his wife applied for a council house years ago but seeing as they had no family they were not entitled but unmarried mothers were put to the head of the queue--I say stop child allowance altogether, if you want children then be prepared to pay for their upkeep and stop relying on hand outs from the tax payer---we got no payments for our kids so why should you,maybe if this payment was stopped then we would`nt see so many unmarried mothers on the street.
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Who Does Guard The Guardians?? 7 April 2012 10:35
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Ho! Ho! and off to work we go, ooops! wrong, Ho!, Ho!, and down the benifits office we go...... Last edited by Don Knight
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